This is the most common question I get in my trainings after students start getting numbers consistently.
When should I call her?
Do I have to wait a few days or just call her the very next day?
What if she doesn’t answer?
Luckily, for the last two years, I’ve kept the logs of all the girls I number closed together with the flow of communication between me and them until I got laid.
Last year I published some statistics that gave an answer to the question: How many days should you call the girl until you give up!
Test conditions
Now, I’m back with my research for the current year, to be more specific: 01.01.2011 -> 30.04.2011.
Here I’m going to concentrate on another question: What’s the perfect algorithm for calling them.
Here are the conditions of the test:
- only number closes, no online game
- I usually got day game numbers in 5 minutes or less using direct game (=> lack of comfort)
- 80-90% of my closes are from day game so I’ll disregard the rest
My results: After ~80 number closes I had 10 new lays (*) in 4 months. (One in eight girls I number closed was a lay)
* one was a social circle lay and another one was a previously sarged girl I number closed a second time
When you should give up calling:
- after you called her 5 total times without an answer (2 times the first day, 2 times 3 days after, etc)
- after 3 consecutive flakes (even though I could get her on the phone easily)
- on 3 successions or 2 weeks of comfort calls and flakes or comfort calls and excuses when I invite her out
^^^ the last one can be translated to a mathematical formula: (3*successions || 2*weeks)(comfort_calls && flakes || comfort_calls && excuses)
Techniques that succeeded:
- 1st place: Day 1: comfort call + seeding a date, Day 2: fclose
- 2nd place: Day 1: comfort call, Day 2++ (a few days of no contact) and no later than Day 7: comfort call + fclose
- 3rd place: Day 1: meet directly, Day 2: fclose
* Day 0 => the day I’ve met her, Day 1 => the day after
What I learned from my experience:
- delete girls that flake on you 3 times (even though they keep the phone convo)
- delete girls that you couldn’t meet with in 2 weeks
- delete girls that don’t answer after 5 total calls (all, of course, spread over 1 week)
- dirty fuck the rest
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